You may wonder why in the world I would bother analyzing a swing of a non-tour player and compare it to Hogan, but here I think the analysis is relevant when you consider the popularity of Secret in the Dirt and Maves’ association with Steve Elkington. I certainly respect Elk and his high standard of play, and I know that he is a devoted searcher of golf swing information, and since Maves puts his swing up for view (which he is to be commended for) I feel that it is fair game for the same type of analysis I give Tour pros. Why compare him to Hogan? Well, Maves is a Hogan aficionado, as am I, and has opinions about just about every part of Hogan’s swing, as I do as well. So, call it competitiveness or whatever you want, but when I watch someone talk about what Hogan is doing and how what his swing (Maves) is doing to mimic and demonstrate his take on Hogan I certainly take note and focus more closely on just what is going on.
What we see here is that while Maves has the Hogan rhythm down to a “T”, the rest of it does not really compare. The bottom line is that Maves’ release is completely different than Hogan’s, and if you are going to talk about what Hogan is doing and then hit shots and ramble on about how your swing has it down and everyone else is too complicated (he calls the work of other instructors “baloney”) then I feel obligated to present the real facts, and here the facts (his swing) doesn’t back him up. It is nothing like what Hogan is doing right from the inside takeaway to the lift and back-up of the head, the under plane approach and the right arm roundhouse release with the over rotated clubface. It’s nothing personal, it’s just that I take my Hogan work seriously and if someone is going to claim to know what Hogan is doing I am going to take a close look at it. I am just reporting objectively what is present on the video.
If you think about how many different ways great players have gone about being great you might surmise that finding common ground wouldn’t be easy. How can anyone agree on what the best method is when all sorts of crazy combinations can be made to work? Certainly that is a legitimate question, and it can only be answered by saying that if I am teaching and I want to help someone to improve I have to identify what I think is hindering them and then offer specific things to remedy the situation. Through a combination of playing, practicing, studying golf swings (both great and not so great), and teaching every teacher comes up with their own “method”, which is really just a compilation of preferences about every element of the swing. One thing I have observed over and over is the fact that a great majority of great players lower during their swings. Some only lower going back, some only lower coming down, and some lower both back and down. Finding a player who stays perfectly level or who raises up in the backswing and doesn’t lower below their starting point in the forward swing is exceedingly rare, so rare in fact that it would seem obvious that the old standby adage that you must “maintain your posture” during the swing is simply wrong, but in a way you would not expect. The odd thing is that while it is not OK to rise up, what you actually should be doing (if you want to be like most of the best players) is trying to lower. I call it compressing into the ground, and I see it to be both athletic and powerful. It is evident in almost all high level acts of throwing and hitting, and if you buy my contention that the swing motion is most like side-arm throwing it becomes obvious why lowering is almost always present.
I’m sure that Mike realizes good players lower during the swing. I’m also sure that after watching this he wishes he had been a little clearer on just what he was discussing, as it certainly seems like he’s saying Scott’s head is not going down at the exact moment that it is. The point I am making here is not that Mike doesn’t know what he’s talking about (he does), it’s that everyone on TV should try to be more careful and attentive to what they are saying, because this stuff is being taken as truth and it goes by so fast that there is no time to rectify confusing information. And while Mike is certainly a high level instructor whom I respect, in this case it sounded like he was agreeing with the other talking heads who consistently pound on players (especially Tiger) for “dipping”. As you all know one of the important aspects of my teaching philosophy is “pivot compression”, which means lowering, so I am especially sensitive and attentive to how that element of the swing is portrayed in the media.
Yes, Johnny Miller was a great player, a major champion. Yes, he hit the ball (for a time) as well as anyone in his era. Yes, you would think he would know a ton about the golf swing and about the players who have been great in the past, and thus it would be educational to listen to what he had to say on the subject. Alas, he continues to show, amazingly enough, that he is completely misguided when it comes to what a golf swing does, and has no clue as to how greats such as Ben Hogan managed to hit the ball so well.
Here we have Johnny criticizing Aaron Baddeley for “collapsing” his right arm immediately after impact, (please refer to his similar complaint with Robert Allenby in my previous video “More Johnny Miller Swing Advice”), and not “chasing the club down the line like Hogan”. Huh? Anyone who knows anything about how Ben Hogan swung the golf club knows that Hogan never chased anything, except maybe the neighbor’s dog out of his front yard. In fact, Hogan moved the club left after impact about as much as anyone in history. If you don’t believe me, just watch the video. The power of actual moving video is apparent when we can take statements like Miller’s and show that they are completely off base. Viewers listen to the announcers, especially ones with the pedigree of Miller, and they are simply getting bad information. And for those of you who will respond to this by saying that what Miller was really talking about was the “feeling” of “swinging down the line” I say horse manure. He never mentions “feel”: rather, he states that Hogan extended his right arm down the line and made the ball take off “on the plane” which is, of course, baloney of the highest order. One day perhaps Johnny will watch one of these videos, or maybe take a look at an actual Hogan swing, and see how ridiculous he sounds.
The entire purpose of this golf video is to record observations of a particular part of the swing as practiced by the top 20 players (according to the “World Rankings”). Too many acceptable variations are castigated by TV announcers who have not done their homework when it comes to knowing what the best players do. Video golf swing analysis is a powerful tool when it comes to teaching a player how to improve his or her swing. An underrated attribute of the video is the ability to watch the greatest players of present and past and record, in detail, what they do. They are all successful. That’s why we watch them. Whatever they do is worth watching and taking the time to discern what is going on in their swings that help them be champions.
The fact that just about every announcer on major TV networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, The Golf Channel, ESPN ) views the descending head (or “dip” as they would call it) in the backswing and downswing as a negative is a clear and stark reminder of how poorly prepared these people are. The videos are irrefutable. These people say things that are blatantly not true. I mean, one guy states right out that he has watched the Hogan videos and has come to the conclusion that Hogan never “dipped” his head. What is he watching?
Anyway, the hand path question is interesting because the only two acknowledged hand paths are (the good one) dropping the hands/arms “into the slot”, or (the bad one) “coming over the top”, which is code for “hands move out toward the ball”. What is interesting is the evidence, which is that more players move their hands outward toward the ball starting down than those who drop them straight down to their feet. Also, that the average hand path is closer to the ball than the feet. The two key items that are always in the mix, allowing the outward hand path to work, are the hard lateral and rotational movement of the pivot, and the lay back and ultimate control of the shaft movement in the downswing.
Man, is this a cool swing to watch. I don’t think I have ever seen a player move so much from their heels forward during the swing and not have all sorts of issues getting to the ball. Once again it is proven that you can almost never say “you can’t do this and be good”. I would never in a million years encourage a player to start with their weight far back in their heels and push the whole body forward in the backswing and in transition. However, Bradley does just that and produces Ben Hogan-like positions approaching and passing through impact, which I demonstrate in a side-by-side comparison. Bradley’s hugely full backswing pivot and the incredible rotation called for to save him from the “cross-the-line” position he gets at the top of his swing combine to produce huge amounts of power, and Bradley can truly bomb it. The other item I focus on here is his exit past impact, which is way left as he achieves an astoundingly open position with his body (upper and lower) at impact. He is the poster child for moving 45 degrees left, even as he pushes forward in the backswing. Golf will never cease to amaze me.
There is a certain aesthetic pleasure in watching a tightly connected, “flat” looking golf swing. The movement appears centered and simple. The energy seems to come 100 % from rotation, and there is little or no rangy or loose movement. At the same time there is a whip-like action that creates effortless looking power that allows physically smaller players to create tremendous distance. The prototype of this type of swing is, of course, Ben Hogan, and I have done a few studies of his swing, some by himself and another comparing him with Tiger Woods. Here we look at the golf swing of the newest player being compared with Hogan, Jonathan Byrd, and we put him side-by-side to check out the similarities and differences.
The similarities in the two swings are more cosmetic than substantial. Byrd’s arm position at the top, specifically the angle of his left arm to the ground is very close to Hogan’s position. But as we look closer there are many significant differences. Ben Hogan reaches the top by adding posture to a fairly erect starting position. Byrd, on the other hand, starts more bent over and with lower hands, then raises slightly in the takeaway and never lowers again until the forward swing is under way. Hogan continues to compress into the ground by deepening his waist, then lowers again starting the forward swing while keeping his head out over the ball. Byrd stays tall and backs away from the ball slightly in transition, which lessens his spine angle and causes his right arm to fall more behind his right side than does Hogan’s. Byrd is saved by his incredible strength: lesser physical specimens would have trouble rotating the hands in front of the ball from this approach.
My purpose here is not to criticize, but to compare. It is my feeling that as good as Byrd is now, he could be better by incorporating some of the key elements of Hogan’s golf swing. At the very least I believe that he could hit the ball significantly farther by improving his use of his pivot and the ground forces that help build additional torque between the upper and lower bodies, possibly leading to increased clubhead speed and more distance with the driver. That said, Byrd’s shot-making and overall control, combined with his powerful physical presence, make him a player to watch in every tournament, including the majors.
I saw Moe Norman hit balls twice, both times speaking to groups of golfers about what he was doing and how he was doing it, and I thought it would be interesting, given the myth concocted around him and his alleged ball striking prowess, if I told the story of my encounter.
When I got out of college I quit golf for a time (I had lost my game miserably my senior year at LSU after being a First Team All-American my junior year), but ended up playing again as a amateur, qualifying for the 1981 US Open and turning pro that Fall. I moved to Florida and embarked on an attempt to play golf for a living, starting out on the Space Coast mini-tour run by JC Goosie. It was at a tournament at the Royal Oaks club in Titusville that I had my first glimpse of Moe Norman. He was on the range hitting balls, and was surrounded by players watching and listening to his sing-song voice describing each shot and relating tidbits about his prowess and the similarities between his methods and those of Ben Hogan and Lee Trevino.
“Me and Hogan, me and Hogan, down the line longer than anyone. 22 inches…22inches down the line. Nobody longer…except maybe Trevino. Me, Hogan and Trevino, nobody down the line like us. Look at my right ankle. See my sock? I put holes in it ‘cause I drag it on the ground. Straight as an arrow, straight as an arrow. No curve…see? No curve at all. Just straight at the target.
I looked at Moe’s hands. They were scaled with callous so thick they looked like fish. He had on red pants that were way too short and tight, and a red shirt to match, with white socks and red and white shoes. There was a large bulge in one of his pockets which a friend informed me was a wad of cash in the neighborhood of $10,000 which he carried because he didn’t believe in banks. Needless to say, this was a seriously strange dude.
I had heard most of the Moe stories simply because I was a pro golfer, and everybody talked about Ben Hogan and Moe Norman. How Moe was leading the Masters and walked off the course for some strange reason or another, or how someone told Moe the hole they were about to play was a “driver and a wedge”, so Moe proceeded to tee off with his wedge, then hit his driver off the deck to 10 feet and make birdie. It wasn’t hard to imagine him reciting “driver, wedge: wedge, driver…driver wedge: wedge, driver…me and Hogan, me and Hogan. Supposedly Moe never missed a shot. Some pretty serious players had commented on how impressed they were with Moe’s ability to hit the ball. So as I began to watch I waited to be enthralled.
Well, it didn’t happen. I was into golf ball compression and the stories I liked the most were about Hogan and the sound his ball made when he hit it. I had seen video of Hogan hitting balls and Hogan playing Snead in the Wonderful World of Golf, and I knew what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wanted the ball to shoot off the club with a crack, and I wanted to mash it against the ground and compress it so that no wind would affect it. I wanted to hit bullets with my driver that curved any way I wanted. Moe Norman didn’t have that. He hit the ball nice and straight, but there was no outstanding quality in his strike. In fact, he seemed to “pick” the ball off the turf, barely disturbing the ground. The whole mechanism looked odd, as he set up way further from the ball than anyone I had ever seen, and with his hands arched up the shaft of the club lined directly up with his left arm. He placed the club well behind and to the inside of the ball at address, and when he finished his arms shot straight up in the air as though he were still guiding the club to the target.
I really didn’t care that his technique was idiosyncratic. There are plenty of funky looking golf swings amongst the greatest players. But I was hugely disappointed in the lack of a compressed strike of the ball. At that point in my mini-tour career I had been playing a bit with Jeff Sluman and Donnie Hammond, and I could only think that those guys could really hit the ball, especially Sluman, who absolutely flushed it with a beautiful, high, straight shot that fell a yard to the right. I recall thinking that I had never hit a shot in my entire life as good as Jeff hit a standard 3-iron.
Anyway, fast forward almost two decades and we arrive at my second meeting with Moe. This time I had been invited to the Pro-Member-Guest at the Adios Golf Club in Fort Lauderdale, Florida by a student of mine, and as a bonus we were going to be able to attend a clinic given by Moe before the start of the event. Alan, my student, had been inflicted with the disastrous conventional instruction to “swing down the line” and had been trying to keep his clubface square to the target to boot. We had worked hard on getting him to swing left around his body, and I spent ample time with the video showing him that the proper exit plane for the club was not straight at the target. Now enter Moe, and as he starts hitting he segues directly into the “down the line” rant, repeating it over and over. “Me and Hogan, down the line: me and Hogan, down the line 22 inches”.
Alan gave me a puzzled look and said “Hey, Wayne. He’s talking about swinging down the line. You’ve been telling me to swing to the left. What’s the deal?” My response was as such: “All right, I’ll tell you what. I’ll make two bets with you right now. The first is that Moe (who was slated to play in the event) will not turn in a score. The second is that I will film Moe’s swing and show you that his club will not swing down the line at all. In fact, it will head more left than almost any swing I have ever shown you” Alan looked at me with great skepticism and said “you’re telling me that Moe Norman, supposedly one of the greatest ball-strikers in the history of golf, doesn’t know what he is doing? Or even worse, that he thinks he is doing exactly the opposite of what he is really doing?” I had no choice but to agree. “That’s exactly what I am saying”. Alan was almost perturbed at this point. “That’s crazy. You’re on. $50 on each bet. By the way, why the “no card” bet?” “He’s a legend”, I explained, and legends don’t shoot 80. This is a tough course and he’s getting older. There’s no way he posts a number.” I took the video of Moe hitting (it still didn’t impress me, although he still hit it straight just about every time) and told Alan we would watch it on a TV after the round.
When we finished and walked upstairs to where the score board was the first thing we saw was the NC beside Moe’s name. 50 for me. After food and drinks we found a TV and I hooked up the video camera. Here it was, a perfect down-the-line shot of Moe with the camera tight in on the bottom of the swing. I cued it up and let it go back in slow motion, and as it got to impact I stopped the tape. “Are you ready for this?” I asked Alan. “Yeah, come on, get to it”, he said excitedly, “I want to win my money back”. Of course, I knew he would do no such thing, because it is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to swing a club straight down the target line with any speed, especially as far as Moe stood from the ball. I clicked the camera one, twice, and as the swing moved past impact the club turned sharply inward on the arc of the shaft plane, finally exiting past his body somewhere between hip high and shoulder high. At the end of the swing, however, Moe brought his arms upward with a flourish, as if to imply that he had actually not swung around his body at all.
Alan was flabbergasted. “That’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. Moe Norman has no idea what he is actually doing with the club. “How can that be?” “Look”, I said, “the lesson to be learned is ‘beware what the good player says he does, because quite often it won’t actually be the case’. It may feel like one thing, and it may produce great results, but it won’t necessarily be what is actually happening. For that you need a video camera. It is never a bad thing to see what is really going on, especially when you are trying to make a change. You have to see what the ideas are producing. You can’t depend on a couple of good shots to tell you that a thought is doing what you want it to do. Great players know what they feel, and when you ask them they’ll tell you. Take that for what it’s worth and be careful with how you apply it. Now, you owe me $100.”